Contrary to what is being said elsewhere, Noel (Ognir / Gatekeeper) has not been "pushed" from CR. He has chosen to leave of his own volition.

This follows some recent events where
1) Noel "pushed the button" a few weeks ago, in a show of strength to prove that he can take CR down at will, whenever he chooses
2) My private conversation with Mike of ConCen regarding my recent discovery of malignant melanoma (confirmed by a friend who is a doctor). Con-cen's response was to ban me, outright, from the site and totally deny me any access to the files / knowlwdge that might help me.

I freely admit that I have not been diagnosed in a doctor's surgery, (edit: I have now) but I have been told what my chances are, based on the opinion of a long-time school friend, who has been a doctor for the past 15 years. Rather than follow the path of conventional medicine, I chose to try to fight this with alternative therapies. Only to find that I am being blocked and stymied at every turn, and denied the information I seek.

Why is this happening? This is why: I made the decision a long time ago that this, and all other information that is vital to the state of humanity at present should be FREE. That is to say, rather than bullying / demanding of people who cannot afford it, I chose to dig into my own pocket and try to provide the best resources, and for this to be free to ANYONE who wishes to use it.

After Mike announced that the con-cen tracker was going to be pulled, this time "for real", I finally announced that CR would start its own tracker - so that if nothing else, I might have access to the resources I currently need. My "reward" for this is to be bad-named and blacklisted by the empire builders who do not wish to see any "competition" offering their services for free. They would rather "control" the information that they purport to share. Noel freely admits that he wants to "make a living" from this, so that he can give up his current business. Mike is hell-bent on preventing CR, or any other site from providing any service for free that he can charge for, bully people over, and generally behave like a dictator about.

I leave it for yourselves to decide where the truth lies, and who truly believes in freely-available information to all. For the record, you can note that neither of Noel's, nor Mike's, accounts have been suspended / banned from CR - unlike mine, faust's, and Majik's, who dared to actually disagree with Mike.

When I most needed information, I was banned from Con-Cen - even after the time, money, and effort I have put in thus far. The unwanted demands on my time have undoubtedly been a major contributory factor as to why my own health is currently suffering.

Just for one moment, please stop and think about this.

Mairi

The sad thing is that everyday its becoming harder and harder to know who you can trust. I know its kind of customary here for everyone to throw a fit, get mad and curse each other out and later act as if nothing happened. But that really isnt my style. I either like someone and treat them good, or I dont like someone and I stay away from them. Here though the opposite is true, You have to stay on your toes, accusations arise with each increasing moment. Brother against brother man against woman. We fight against the injustice of the world yet we can;t seem to stop the injustice within out selves.

I received the shock of my neo-con-cen experiences when CTRL banned me and deleted the lengthy post I made addressing all the issues. Very unfair. Not only did he deprive the people of what I had to say but also denied me the right to defend myself. Not to mention the fact that it was an honest educated and unbiased posts just stating the facts and asking for resolutions. Some people just can;t handle the facts.

FOr CTRL

Ctrl bad mouthed me once and I swore never to go back to neo-con and he later apologized and I forgave him. Later to be fair I started going back to neo-con only to be greated by the monster poor excuse of a man that calls himself ctrl. Not only does he not have the decency and class to show respect to a lady and resolve his anger in a polite private manner, but he also takes out his frustrations and abuses his powers on others who have done nothing but help. He is a coward and I can only hope that as he deteriorates from the anger and self loathing that consumes his every waking moment, as he drowns another alcoholic beverage to sustain his ever increasing misery, and as he finds the people he once called friends all gone and he is left an old man alone with only tales of sorrows of the man that could of been, i hope he remembers today that I called him a coward and apart of the disease that plagues mankind. Any shred of honour and respect I held for you even if just as a member of the human race, has just died. All that is left is for me to thank you for showing me my erroneous ways in beleiving their is hope for mankind, because of you I know some men will always be excrements from a mules arse. I bid you farewell from my memory and hopefully the world can bid you farewell from your existence as well.

FOR OGNIR

Mate I don't know what to make of you. You seem to play the field always looking for your best interests. I dont get what happened with you. 3 days ago you were here talking to me telling me how crazy ctrl has become and how you have no time for his immaturity and now I see you have run back to his side. No offense but along time ago someone (i believe faust) brought up the point that you seem to hold a loyalty to CTRL and feel like you owe him something, like a woman in an abused relationship, and I have seen it to be so. How can you sit here defending Mairi and saying that ctrl has lost his mind and then you abandon us for him. I always make excuses to myself and think " Ahh thats just Ognir", but at what point do we just stop forgiving you as having a flaw in your personality and start holding you responsible for you actions.

TO MAIRI

Mairi I don't know what to say. I have always liked you and respected you. I always look at the goodness in people and try to take and learn what I can from them. I have always been stimulated by intellectual women and you surely embody that persona. You have also always treated me with kindness, and took notice of me even when I was just another neo-con-ian nobody under Ctrl's control. I really have nothing bad to say to you personally from my experiences dealing with you. Now in an un-personal observant way I can say that your are surrounded in mystery. Many people have come to the conclusion that you are a liar and while I personally beleve you have told a lie here and there, I never experienced it myself nor do I really care . Second I have always been confounded by the grace is Cypher phenomenom. I know you have always denied it and again I could really care less if you are or aren't (since it has no relevance to my life nor does it affect the world in anyway) but from my observation it does seem that you and Ctrl know of this grace person very well (on a personal level) and yet never revealed who she was. Also from the way you and Ctrl spoke of her, it appeared as if Grace was an alter ego of yours (Cypher). that is the conclusion I came up with but again I could care less. Thirdly it is apparent that madthumbs, Ctrl, Ognir and Cypher you have all obviously been involved in shady unethical treatment of each other and through it began a personal war amongst each other that has spread throughout the community. Forum versus forum. Quite pathetic and sad because no one realizes that these stupid argumentsd mean nothing. If grace is cypher, if Ctrl is a crypto jew, if Madthumbs is a fat old man all means absolutely nothing. It is a grain of sand on an endless beach that has no affect to the macrocosm. These forums have become a soap opera, increasing in popularity not for its information but for the spectacle, as has most of the truth movement. Your all taking more interest in each others personal life then to the movement itself. I've stuck to Mairi because I believe shes trying to do something noble, and sometimes it goes wrong like the "neo-con christianity forums" but I believe them to simple human error and not anything planned. I could be fully wrong but my interest is in having a forum I can freely express myself and give out information and conspiracy research so far is the calmest most professional most democratic one. If ever that changes to my disliking then I will just simply move on. I thank everyone, even those that have found a home in my dislike list, for the good times but eventually this will all just be a memory and truth is the only loyalty for me.


TO THE REST

I apologize on behalf of everyone for these constant inconveniences. I sure dont have all the facts and therefore speak on my perception of event happenings. I hope we can all move to better things. I personally am fed up but hopefully I will have the strength to continue in my truth movement. Remember this everyone we are not to be defined by labels of any sort, we merely search for truth and therefore have the understanding that we know nothing but seek everything. All sources of information including our enemies is welcomed and thoroughly analyzed for probablility. When it comes to truth be willing to change your mind at any given time and be as flexible as water. Only then can we evolve.

Peace and Love to all

Well said Majik.

I can't say what Ognir's motives are in all this. There's definately an interest for him to stay at christian neo-cen, whether it be his own personal fan base, or that he wants to make money from uploading torrents, or that he "owes" ctrl a lot (whatever that may be...!!). See ya later noel, be good fella

Let's get this tracker up for the masses. If Z is up for it then great, if not, then not great!!

Man I love reading your words MaJik, thank you buddy, and I don't think you are very far off the mark in most of what you said.

This continues to be a place of truly free discussion and I am grateful for that fact, I have seen enough ugliness in other places this week to convince me that we need to leave old ties behind and just get on with growing this place. Steady continuing expansion is all we need, most of the machinery is already in place, let's just get on and do it.

I can't speak for Og, I am personally extremely upset by his decision, I think it is the wrong one and I think it will come back to haunt him, but hey... the guy has made up his mind and there doesn't seem to be anything anyone can do to change that. I do however find the way he is trying to suggest he was "pushed out" rather distasteful. I hope whatever deal Og and Ctrl have made works out for them, and I genuinly wish Noel all the best, I'm sure he will continue pumping out the files come-what-may.

Mairi, you have proved yourself to be a very resilient lady and you have had ALOT to deal with in recent weeks (too much for most to handle), but I do hope you can find some time to take a break or a hoilday once your work/travel hell calms down a bit and get some real "Mairi time" You deserve it. At least you can rest easy that you will never have to go rescue the Neo-"Con" spiracycentral boards when they go down ever again - must be a relief!

I too hope Rob decides to stick with us (I think he knows how much we value his help and expertise here) but if that is not the case there are plenty of other places to host a tracker but I hope Rob is willing to help us out.

It's been a pretty sickening month in regards to how we have been treated and all of us have had to spend far too much time dealing with mudslinging and enethical behavior, rather than get on with our research. This is going to change.

Let's begin to pool our resources, encourage some more "good" people to join us here, really focus our research, start getting the most out of the board functions here, start make more connections in the truth community and let's really start making an impact.

It must be done, truth and information must be free, let's just set them free....

Extremely well said Episteme. They burn us to ashes with their inferno of hatred and lies but we will rise like the Pheonix. Everything has bee said and done and we know where we all stand, all of us left here on cenres are the survivors and true knowledge seekers, so lets get to our own business and forget the rest exist.

Mairi keep us up to date with how you are going along

I like how you guys can easily write long articles, I have no energy though.

~ Mairi, go to doctor ASAP, change your lifestyle & take your health as top priority.
~ Ognir, gimme a break with pushing you out, I like you man and I am sad you left. I know you & Mike are buddies but your leave was somewhat lame. Fighting Slavo & Madthumbs? C'mon buddy, do something more important. We were working for 6 months onConspiracy Researchand you leave so easily?

I am SICK & TIRED of bull5h!tting and politics, we are not even able to behave (Mike gee, total rudeness on "Con"spiracycentral) within two boards HOWEVER we want to fight NWO... GIVE ME A fcukING BREAK

Cheers,

--Rob

Did you all realize that when you all have discussions there, we 'normal' users are unable to reply or participate?

Mairi: I'm sad to hear. Please take care of yourself first and foremost, that's the only thing that matters. Remember, there is only now - what all controversy and crap is about is history.

To everybody: I sum this up (again) with my favourite one-liner -- You become what you fight.

I just read this thread:

http://www.conspiracyresearch.org/forums/i...&#entry8455

I'd like to respond but I'm locked out of replying, so I'd do it here if it please's ya.

I've not been able read or responde to any posts in the last month, so I will take this thread as an encapsulation of what transpired during my absense. First, I should say I had a deep sense of forboding when Mairi told me thatConspiracy Researchmight start its own tracker. I knew it would be a great sources of division, a final split between c0n-cen and CR. Not that I disagreed with her in doing so, but to me it was to be the final severing of the ties between these two sites... of course that would mean many would have to choose one side or the other, if only becuase ctrl woudl demand it.

One thing that has always been consistent about mike, whether he was drinking or not, is his vindictive nature. We have all been resipeints of his verbal abuse and vengeful wrath when we chose to go against him. I knew that Noel would not be able to straddle both sites, but believed that he'd stay here becuase of ctrl's inconsistent intent. CR, from the very begining, has been extremely consistent, and that primarily becuase of how strong Mairi's intent has been. As shewell knows, I've not always agreed with limiting the scope of that intent or how its presented literally ... but she's a smart girl and I have never questioned the spirit of her intent and her devotion toConspiracy Researchand its members. And becuase of her, the spirit of Conspiracy Research has always been to spread knowledge and to present our information to those who would dare to know. This is what has binded it's senior members together through everything that has happened, whether in politics, religion, war, in-fighting, and our personal lives... No matter what our beliefs or allegiances, it continues to bind us together.

Osgorth is right, we do become what we fight, but we also become what we love. And before this story reaches a conclusion, we will need tio fight for what we love. That doesn't mean violence or vindiction, but purpose. For we love knowledge, and we fight for truth, to give up that fight would be to give up what we love, and we are not ready to do that. To fight with love, we will need integrity.

Above all else, Integrity is whatConspiracy Researchhas come to represent. Senior members take responsibiliy for what they post, and the site has avoided banning, censoring and excluding whatreally happens, both in the world of conspiracies and in our small community of truth seekers. This set its apart from the "haters", who hate themselves just as much as they hate others. I believe so many people in our community sustain them selves through hate, and and since we cannot helpe be b e a part of what we hate, it becomes a form of self hatred. Without a sense of integrity, self-hatred consumes us and our willingness to face up to what we do. The battle becomes pointless, repetative, and deceptive. It loses its sense of reality, its relavence. This is why we feel like giving up, not because of the authority of the New World Order, but rather becuase of the behavior of our fellow human beings in the face of such an opponent. I can't help but fear that those who read much of the "conspiracies" we write about come to dismiss the truth movement in the same way.

So simple resilience is not enough in the face of the maliciouness and hatred as we see from our selves and others. Eventually we will all get worn down, forced to choose sides, or disheartened by the repetitive conflicts we witness or participate in. As we witness our true intent and integerity spiral downward into pettyness and self-importance, our cynicism and fatigue threatens to destroy what progress we have made in our years of research. Our time at neo-con, our new venture here at CR, and everything else we've done in our quest to find and spread truth can belost if we cant find teh strength to look away from the spiral and see the pattern. It is all one story, and it is not over until we sacrifice our integrity and give up on the spirit of free information. That is all that we have to give.

If Noel sides with ctrl, fine, just don't give up the TRUE fight, the fight for integrity and knowledge, your the battle for freedom, here or anywhere. If Mairi has become striken by illness, and she must stop and do what she must to take care of her body and her heart, not matter how resilent or stong her vision. If majik has lost his hope in humanity and in those he onced admired, then he must look around him and see what it is that humanity has lost, and how it can be taken back. And he may not find it where he expects to. This summer I confront my own sense of denial, and found that when I did, I couldn't not write and publish as I had before.. the pain over love and work and family and was too much... and since I couldn't find a way to bring that into my tales of power, so I was forced to stop until I have... I am doing that now I believ, and I will not be fully back until I have found it again. So don't be afraid to detach from what you've told yourself "you have to do", whether its fighting madthumbs, ctrl, or even the NWO... as long as you keep the spiritof knwoledge inside and your sense of integrity intact, your love will bring you back. This fight isn't over, not as long as we have a part to play in what is happening. We are invaluable to this world.

That may seem presumptuous, but that belief sustains me... people with integrity, questioning minds and rare knowledge are NEEDED... Now more than ever, I believe that the world needs as many of us to survive with our hearts intact as we can. We cannot allow ourselves to be destroyed by self-hatred and burn out from despair. THAT is what THEY want, those who think they have written the story and determined the ending. DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. Our story is not over, and neither is your part in it. Recouperate, retain your hope, foster your curiosity, your vigor, and your love. You will need it. You will need everything you've got.

Because the spirit, and the fight, is always waiting.


Chris Carota

Hi there tsoldrin, sorry I didn't spot your post before, yes you are right - posts in that section are generally just for announcements and hence only staff members can post in there - you are however free to start a thread on anything you wish, in any of the other sections.

Check your PMs - I have taken the time to correct several apparent "facts" (I think someone needs to look that word up in a dictionary) that you may have been mislead by, as nobody was able to defend themselves...

This was a great, insightful heartfilled post. Thanks for taking the time to write and share your valuable opinion.

P.S. geat writing style

Amen to that Osgorth..I agree 100 percent. wich is why I always tried to stay away from neo-con-cen and controversy but when I went over to neo-con-cen and saw the blatant lying and abuse and defamation of character (especially for Mairi and this site wich in a certain light is also a stabb at our members) and that I just cannot stand for. I have never liked the idea of us having anything to do with neo-con-cen, if not for the pure volitileness of Ctrl and the irradic behavior of neo-con-cen which this site tries to avoid.

For me I feel the storm is over, and we have plenty to look foreward too. We have great members and a great staff that really beleive in this place. This was just one chapter in our lives thats been way past due. Now its on to the good stuff

Yes, you become what you love. Problem is, most people confuse love with desire, when love in fact is the opposite of desire. Love is the total lack of personal desire.

As long as you are fighting, there cannot be love. You fight because you have a desire for this and that, and where desire is, love is not.

Hi there Osgorth, nice of you to drop by, I hope to fight only with love and never to love the fight...

Well it should probably be noted that the decision to launch aConspiracy Researchtracker was made some time ago, exactly around the time the "Con" spiracycentral tracker comments were removed several days ahead of schedule and also the download links without warning. Mairi later convinced the guys over there to reinstate the D/L links and we have been promised that they will always remain intact.

This was the time that it was decided that it would be a must to have a dedicatedConspiracy Researchtracker for the core research materials that we need to do what we do here. The "Con" spiracycentral tracker has since been yanked offline on at least one occasion and this just convinces us further that we are doing the right thing... nobody can have any confidence to upload torrents to a tracker if they do not know whether it will be there the next day or not TheConspiracy Researchtracker will likely have a slightly different flavour in terms of the materials we will share and besides there is more than enough room in this world for another conspiracy tracker.

Also thankyou for your words of inspiration Osgy and Chris Carota, great having you guys around again

EDIT: One final thing - since all this trash-talking ofConspiracy Researchstarted, traffic here has jumped up significantly, which can only be a good thing in my book.

Thing is though, as I said, you can't.

Fighting implies a desire to an end of some sorts, that is, fighting implies a desire of the fighter. Since love is the absence of desire, where desire is there cannot be love. To experience love, to be in reality, desire must cease. NOT controlled, NOT suppressed, but removed altogether. When you attempt to control something, suppress something, there is also desire to do the controlling and the suppressing.

When you are really in love with somebody, you eventually end up in a moment where nothing else matters, where time stops and the world around you ceases to be. All you have eyes, ears and heart for is your loved one. This is a moment of clarity, a pure moment of being, what is also called to be in the "now". This is the only truth, everything else is an illusion created by your ego and the interaction with other egos in the same state of delusion.

This state of being can be attained with anything, a woman, a man, a cat, a tree, a pebble, a flower.. Everything. The only thing humans need is to get back to this state of wonder, of timelessness, of pure love. This is how children are before they are corrupted by us so-called adults. Witness the wonder and amazement a small child can have with the most trivial objects in life, and witness pure being. Nothing else matters, everything else that we create for ourselves is a battle of egos, and that is not who we really are.

The ego is a product of our mind, our combined knowledge and experiences in the past. The ego therefore is history, it is not who we are now - it is a filtered recording of who we were. Most people, however, identify themselves with their ego, with their mind. This is where our problems arise. Our minds are great tools, but only when needed. Most of the time we don't need it at all. Problem is, we are prisoners of the mind, we are constantly having to use it, in this world of attention and information that we have created. To be in the now, to be fully present, requires an absence of thought - since thought is history and anything based on thought is a mere rehashing of history. We cannot ever produce something new based on thought, so by reading, discussing, researching and worrying about history, all we do is repeat it endlessly.

Instead, listen to your heart, your body. This is what we call intuition, feelings and emotions. This is what we truly are. Don't take my word for it - after all mankind have ignored these words for thousands of years - but rather feel it. You will know this is so.

Newbie here.

There is no coincidence, only synchronicity.

As newbie started running thru scroll and hit this right off !


How joyous!

Great words and uplift.


For millinea an entity based on HATE and FEAR
has conditioned the massmind to see all of this parallel as OTHER


yes there is OTHER but it is still part of ONEESS.

All other has place and reason.
We learn our lessons by intgegrating OTHER
and allowinf it to be itself


and getting on with our OWN INDIVIDUAL
manifestation with as much division from
other as we feel we need to be our individual self

while still allowing that OTHER is valid and does
not need to be destroyed by sword of dominant culture'.


As we mature Spiritually at any age we grasp how to do this
and can ALLOW, not CONTROL all OTHER.

Patriarchy must CONTROL all OTHER
and will murder this planet and all sentient beings in
order to maintain its insidious control.



The OTHER is re-emerging since the
Dark Ages beagn to fade and the LIGHT
began to return to the minds of men.


Bless all who act from LOVE

and cast HATE out into the abyss.


Liebe, liebe über alles

Thank you for your words KarlW. Feel free to say 'ello here and join in any of the discussion around the rest of the forums...

A warm welcome to CR

Heh, yeah... it is good to see you back Osgy


Hehe... yes I can ...ok, maybe "fight" isn't the right word... rather just that I have resolved myself to the fact that all I can do is try to show people a better way, and my weapon of choice (scratch that...) my tool... or "way" if you like is to do it with kindness and try to never get stuck down in any sense of ego. I don't feel I am fighting... resisting maybe... but nevertheless I will go on doing so right to the end... and while there is still breath in my body

My sig in other places right now is "Be good... 'cos you know you should..." so I think we are on the same wavelength.

Peace is all we crave...

Episteme (and others too of course ),

no matter which word you choose or how you want to justify it, what you are in fact doing is imposing your will upon others. That is, you are ruled by your own desires to help others see things your way. I'm not saying that is wrong or criticizing you, I'm just trying to explain myself. We all do this more or less, including me here and now.

What I believe is that as long as we run with agendas, ruled by desires - no matter what they are - we will not get out of this system of ours.

Consider the gurus, the wise people and all those.. Without judging their information, is it not true though that people seek them out as opposed to them seeking people to teach? This is a good exchange of information. One should commune freely when requested to, but not impose anything on anybody even though the intention is honourable.

As soon as one acts on desire, polarity appears. One can go out in the world and do good according to one's best intentions and beliefs, but this will always create an opposing force. There is no absolute good, nor is there an absolute evil. Any good act will trigger an evil act, and the battle for equilbrium has started yet again. As we are vehemently resisting the new world order and all those conspiracies, they gain in strength. Is this not so? Look at the past twenty years or so. The so-called new world order has according to our information been active for eons.. But it is only now that it's getting really serious, and why is that? On the same token, it is only now that the resistance has become large and public as well. This is no accident. By acknowledging evil and demonstrating resistance, the polarity game is fuelled. By the same token, if there was to be a crusade of peace, wars would be the eventual outcome.

You say we crave peace.. Yes we do, most people want this for obvious reasons. But can there be peace without war? This is also a polarity, a game of opposite extremes like everything else. It's all a game, left and right, good and evil, war and peace. We cannot ever have one without the other, do you see this?

If you spin on this for awhile, you come to the realization that everything we know of is part of this game. Everything is dualism, there is always a positive and a negative aspect, battling eachother and striving for equilibrium.

Everything, except one thing.. Which is no thing, nothing. Nothingness has no counterpart, it is unique.

So what does this mean? To me it means either of two things: either we stop playing the game or we play the game as best we can. With joy, that is, not in a futile attempt to swing the game to our favour, because that will never work (for obvious reasons now, I hope).

Where does it leave us? Enjoy life. Carpe diem. Treasure the moment. Let the extreme ends of the game play out, surrender to the game. Surrender to what is. Stay in the present, don't get stuck in the past or the future. Tomorrow doesn't exist, it is a mere expectation. Yesterday is defined by today, what happens now gives meaning to what did happen, not the other way around. Be spontaneous, enjoy the moment, be in the here and now at all times. Then you will forget what fear is, find out what life is, what love is, and see the game for what it really is - a game.

There is nothing you can do that will change it. We have over six thousand years of recorded history to prove that this is true, over and over and over again. Everything settles, everything falls down and is re-created, it's all a cycle. Surely, now and then some people think they can beat the game and take control of it, and those are the ones that suffer the most when the tide turns back on them. And it will, and it has, in all eternity.

Some will say: this is so fatalistic, there is no hope!? To them I say: really? What is hope? Hope is an expectation that is desired, another illusion played out by your mind, your ego. You hope because you are not satisfied with the now, and wish for something "better" tomorrow. As the zen monks say: if hungry - eat, if tired - sleep. What else is there, really? Enjoy the game, don't get tricked by it.

Many thanks for all of your help and continued support - I can't tell you how much it means to me.

Having thought about this all week, I believe that we need to remember our original stated objective of keeping the forums clean of any personal attacks & BS, which should be a great deal easier now.

I would therefore ask that any personal references to individual differences be avoided in future, and any posts made in defence of bogus claims on any other site or individual source might be edited / removed. If anyone would like to edit or remove a post but find that they cannot, please ask for assistance. If you have made any such post & would still like to keep it, please consider adding it to your blog instead. Blogs are entirely personal, are only editable by the blog owner themselves, and may be used for whatever purpose the blog owner sees fit (examples of inappropriate content should be obvious, and need not be stated). If we refuse to feed the fire & don't get involved in these endless personal attacks, the fires will have no fuel & will fizzle out of their own accord.

Let's keep our time and energy positively focussed on our passionate desire to make available the knowledge & proof that there are great truths being hidden from citizens of every country worldwide, and if these truths were widely known, there would be a revolution by the morning.

Let's concentrate on the core facts, and support any other site which shares this interest in promoting the truth, and not waste time with anything or anyone who does not share this as their primary goal.

We need to focus on links, references & promoting other truth sites, and simply switch off the soap opera channels rather than become dragged into any timewasting. This movement needs to be about the truth, not mini-dramas, it needs to be about integrity, not badmouthing. It should be about the message, not the messenger, & for that reason I will post updates on my health in my blog only, because I don't feel that this should have any relevance whatsoever on the forums.

Mairi

PS - apologies to anyone who was unable to post on this topic previously - my mistake. I should have created the post in Site News then moved it to General Discussion, so that others could post. Instead, I did this the wrong way round, and have now discovered additional issues when I tried to merge threads - non-admins' posts do not show in Site News

I hope that I can still recover any posts which I have lost meantime, and sincerely apologise for my error.

Edit: sorted - all three topics are now merged into one, and I believe that members should be able to post here now. Many thanks for your patience.

Mairi, thanks for fixing the thread and all that but really, I must echo Z here:

~ Mairi, go to doctor ASAP, change your lifestyle & take your health as top priority.

TOP PRIORITY.

Things here will falter or they won't, take care of yourself first. It's like the oxygen mask on an airplane.


@Osgorth, welcome back to the land of the living. Stretch and rub your eyes.

Thanks no3, I already have.