SourceRobert Scott Lazar (
January 26,
1959), or Bob Lazar, claims to have worked from 1988 until 1989 as a physicist at an area called S-4 (Sector Four), located near Groom Lake, Nevada, next to
Area 51. According to Lazar, S-4 served as a hidden military location for the study of extraterrestrial flying saucers. Lazar says he saw nine different discs there and provides details on their mode of propulsion.
Biography and claims
In November 1989, Lazar appeared in a special interview with investigative reporter
George Knapp on
Las Vegas TV station
KLAS to talk about the several aspects and implications of his work at S-4. Lazar said his tasks consisted in the scientific investigation of the propulsion system of one of nine disc-shaped aircraft, as a general part of the ongoing
reverse engineering project taking place at S-4.
In August 1990, Knapp investigated Lazar's and was provided with a
W-2 tax slip showing payments from the Department of Naval Intelligence, and other pieces of evidence Knapp believes supports Lazar's claims.

In his interview with Knapp, Lazar said he first thought the saucers were secret, terrestrial aircraft, whose test flights must have been responsible for many UFO reports. Gradually, on closer examination and from having been shown multiple briefing documents, Lazar came to the conclusion that the discs must have been of extraterrestrial origin. In his filmed testimony, Lazar explains how this impression first hit him after he boarded the craft under study and examined their interior.
For the propulsion of the studied vehicles, Bob Lazar explains how the atomic element 115 served as a nuclear fuel. Element 115 (nicknamed 'Ununpentium' (Uup)) reportedly provided an energy source which would produce
anti-gravity effects under proton bombardment along with the production of
antimatter used for energy production. Lazar's website says, as the intense
strong nuclear force field of element 115's nucleus would be properly amplified, the resulting effect would be a distortion of the surrounding gravitational field, allowing the vehicle to immediately shorten the distance to a charted destination.
Lazar elaborates how he was given introductory briefings describing the historical involvement by extraterrestrial beings with this planet for 10,000 years. The beings originate from the
Zeta Reticuli 1 & 2 star system and are therefore referred to as Zeta Reticulians, popularly called 'Greys'.
Physicist
Stanton Friedman has called Lazar's claims "all
bunk." Lazar says he has degrees from the
California Institute of Technology and
Massachusetts Institute of Technology. However, skeptics report that his name does not appear on the alumni roll of either institution. The yearbooks from that time neither contain identity photos nor other references to Bob Lazar. Friedman was only able to verify that Lazar took an electronics courses in the late 1970s at
Pierce Junior College. Lazar alleges this is the result of the government's erasure of his past identity for reasons of secrecy.
It can be noted that Robert Lazar may have been the first to go public regarding reverse-engineering of alien craft. Videos which include Robert Lazar's testimony are shown below:
Robert Lazar describing a UFO he worked on - 01:44 - Oct 13, 2007
Robert Lazar describing in detail the alien craft that he claimed to have worked on, in an attempt to reverse-engineer its technology. He also mentions the briefing he was given, telling him that it was indeed alien technology.
Secrets of the Black World - 2:14:04 - Oct 7, 1995
Michael Hesemann's 1995 video featuring footage showing objects flying near area 51 (and 1 landing). Interviews with Bob Lazar, George Knapp, Bill Hamilton, Ray Wardle, Sean David Morton, Bill Uhouse, Wendell Stevens and others.