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Entropiate
I've always maintained a fairly strong scepticism regarding David Icke, to the extent that I've not really paid much attention to his output in recent years. That said, one or two minor errors aside I can't argue with broad thrust of this 173 minute lecture one bit. It's spot on.

http://www.edgemediatv.com/icke/

It was shot just prior to the Haltemprice and Howden by-election where Icke stood as a candidate against David Davies MP. He didn't win, but as he explains, he didn't really want to. Instead, he uses the platform to produce a lecture which outlines the big brother state and its relationship to the 'globalist agenda' extremely clearly and he backs it up with plenty of documentary evidence.

Surprisingly similar in structure to a good talk from Alan Watt (like Reality Check) but with an occasional dash of Jasper Carrot (British comedian) to lighten it up, this would be a great vid to give to someone who's in the process of waking up, i.e. someone who acknowledges the underlying lies surrounding say, Iraq or 911 but who hasn't yet realized how these things are really just aspects of a wider collusion to implement world government.

To the right audience it could work wonders.
meatpuppet
Your right, this is an excellent wake-up pill, if people can get over the whole 'David Icke's a nutter' label that was attached during his shellsuit phase. Yes he did loose it for a little while, but that doesn't mean he's not an extremely smart guy who has done the research and can see what is really happening to us.

But sleepers who do not want to wake up, will not wake up. I've tried to introduce people (friends and family) to the concept of 9/11 being a false-flag operation, our liberties being incrementally eroded, the fact that parking wardens now have the power to arrest you and enter your home and search it, the fact that they are about to fluoridate our drinking water, but they are so deeply rooted in their beliefs that now they just think I'm a little odd or something. They cannot imagine that the people in positions of authority might be power-crazed psychopathic eugenicists with a penchant for dehumanizing and killing their own people.
Entropiate
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...if people can get over the whole 'David Icke's a nutter' label that was attached during his shellsuit phase. Yes he did loose it for a little while, but that doesn't mean he's not an extremely smart guy who has done the research and can see what is really happening to us.

I agree that he's a smart guy who's had access to a good deal of research (much of it other people's), but I don't think he lost it back there at all. I think he knew exactly what he was doing & I wouldn't be at all surprised if he doesn't do it again when the time is right. I like his lecture, but it'll take more than that for me to consider him a trusted ally.

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But sleepers who do not want to wake up, will not wake up. I've tried to introduce people (friends and family) to the concept of 9/11 being a false-flag operation, our liberties being incrementally eroded, the fact that parking wardens now have the power to arrest you and enter your home and search it, the fact that they are about to fluoridate our drinking water, but they are so deeply rooted in their beliefs that now they just think I'm a little odd or something. They cannot imagine that the people in positions of authority might be power-crazed psychopathic eugenicists with a penchant for dehumanizing and killing their own people.

I agree with that entirely – apart from your use of the word little, as in 'a little odd'. If your sleeping friends and relatives are anything like mine they've probably convinced themselves you're completely bonkers by now. C'est la vie. As the truth begins to hit closer to home in the coming months this could change.
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