Sought: Info on the Conspiracy Factions

Hi,
I've been scouring the internet, and there is so much information I might need to spend years finding the info I am seeking. I hope not, and I hope you can help direct me to the appropriate resources. So let me describe just what I am seeking.

I realize the Illuminati, Masons, and others have been around for eons. I've never been clear about their ultimate goals and objectives, but clearly these conspiracies were about wielding influence and some control over governments, culture, society and world events. I'm fine with that level of understanding. I also understand that some time around the 1800s, global bankers were beginning to exert some control on world events; to what ultimate end I do not know. Nor do I know why Lincoln was assassinated, but I suspect that he was planning to break up some of the large corporations he warned us of.

I don't know which group was behind the desire to create the League of Nations after WWI, or what their secret motive was. I am not clear that a global government (beyond global policy making) was the aim, or why that would be the aim. I always assume that a desire to control things is ultimately motivated by some other desired objective.

Then, after WWII, I realize we got the "military industrial complex," the Cold War, and the Council on Foreign Relations. Later we got the Trilateral Commission to unify policy making between the US, Europe and the Pacific rim. Somewhere along the line, we got the Bilderbergers.

Then we had 9-11, along with a global cover-up and global war on terror, and now all of this seems very important to understand. Alex Jones seems to believe that all of these conspiratorial groups are working on behalf of one global master plan. But I can't see this whole mess being that simple. Jones sees every Congressional member of CFR just as complicit in 9-11 as Cheney. He sees every reporter, every author and professor, and every politician who parrots the official story to be in on it.

I would agree that most are likely in on the fact that there is a conspiracy, and there is some very compelling reason why they choose to not expose the existence of this conspiracy. The conspiracy seems so pervasive, and yet I know of not a single soul who has come forward to say it exists, with the exception of Carol Quigley. What this implies to me is not that everybody who told of the conspiracy becomes a part of it, but rather that they are also told what will happen if they do tell.

With this as my starting framework, I want to understand the inter-relationships between these various groups. I cannot believe that all these groups share a single vision or a single plan; that simply goes against human nature. Rather, I suspect that each group is filled with factions with their own motives and ulterior motives. And that there are multiple global chess games underway at any one time, that are being played out in a plane fully known to only a small handful. And part of the rules of the game are that no group can expose the other group. Disputes are handled behind the scenes, and never in public.

If anyone can help shed some light on the actual arrangement and relationships among these groups and factions, I would much appreciate it. It makes sense that the military industrial complex wants war 24/7. So, are those who are seeking economic globalization somewhat at odds with the militarist agenda? Of course, I can see plenty of room for overlap, but I can also see where somebody seeking to establish global order might be perturbed by the ongoing efforts to create and exploit chaos.

Surely every intelligence agency around the world must be aware about the underlying chess games in play, and must be concerned. I presume there can be no talk among intelligence and defense officials about exposing or weakening these relatively small groups of conspirators. To do so would likely be a fatal mistake, correct? Or might these groups even have more sinister means to extort silence and compliance, like the ability to unleash some type of WMD?

Are there certain aspects of a master plan that has all groups on board? Plans such as microchipping in place of currency, or global surveilance of individuals? And what to make of the global warming crowd? Obviously global warming is real, but what are the motivations behind those who appear to be exploiting this phenomenom for global objectives that might go beyond environmental concerns?

I suppose this is enough to chew on. I look forward to your input. Thank you.

Nice post Toddly.

I agree with almost everything you say, but one point I'd like to make is related to your statement that the ruling elite might not take kindly to ongoing efforts to foment chaos. I'd argue the opposite is true. You see, as long as the individuals operating further down the hierarchy are pursuing the goals of an established institution (such as one of those shown in the diagram below) on a need-to-know basis, their actions, and by extension the chaos, have been shaped and guided effectively from a distance at the outset, both directly (control of funding and access to key positions etc) and indirectly (the provision of training and education, the promotion of politically correct nonsense etc). The elites are masters of psychology and human nature – and all outcomes can be predicted. It is a chess game, but it's important recognize that the board, the pieces and most tellingly of all the RULES, have been set by the hidden forces in society. Mind control you could say.

Managed chaos, usually created by some sort of dialectical tension (which they fund on one or both sides as needs be) is how they effect change in society. They need to effect change, not least because the alternative is stagnation, which they find unacceptably boring and unprofitable. The art is getting us to go along with it and that's why the dialectic is a favoured tool.

We can see evidence of the existence of dialectical control quite clearly in the diagram in fact. Several of the players listed could be considered to be in direct opposition to each other, for example, the drug cartels and Interpol (a private organisation incidentally), or the Communist Party and the Vatican.

The importance of control is another aspect over which you and I differ, albeit only a little. I start from the assumption that human beings, along with many other animals, seek to control what happens to them (up to a point), especially when threatened. It's innate. This is confirmed by numerous psychological & behavioural studies. At a basic level I'm referring to the survival instinct, but in the case of higher animals it's more complex. I think this is because the temptation to intellectualize this basic impulse is almost irresistible – and once the preservation of self is accepted and acknowledged as a personal goal, the development of groups like the Illuminati and the masons becomes inevitable. It's a natural extension of the desire to control and improve your life chances. Same with banking, governments and ever larger corporations. We want to succeed, however we may have been taught to interpret and manifest that. Success is usually dependent on establishing control of some kind. That these interest groups become intertwined and enmeshed is inevitable too, as is world government; because world government represents the pinnacle of control – at least it does until the possibility of something even grander comes along!

For me the agenda is the sum total, the composite real-world manifestation of the common desire to be in control that is found within each of us, but which has been skewed to favour some groups at the expense of others on an inter-generational basis. That power imbalances exist between individuals and how those differences are played out is what interests us both, along with how they might be counter-acted effectively.

I'm not sure that I've answered any of your questions, but I felt your interesting post deserved a reply.

Enough words, here's a picture. I'm not sure where I got the diagram from and it's woefully incomplete anyway, but as far as it goes I think it's useful. I'm sure you are familiar with many of these groups but I thought it worthy of a post for anyone who's not seen it before.