QUOTE (nubsnovets @ 29-March-2008 07:44)

Wow, I learn about another piece to the puzzle every day. I'm new to this conspiracy research stuff. The reason I started researching government conspiracy seemed so innocent to start with. I'm a stay at home mom so I wanted to start a website and try to earn a little extra cash. I truly believe in organics and wanted to sell natural products on my site. So I researched the toxic chemicals that I already knew were in our every day house hold products like lotions, hand soaps, and baby wipes. But I was also posting news clips from Democracynow.org, because I'm a bit political. While researching I would bump into other useful tidbits and would research that subject more thuroughly, I'm the type of person that needs hard facts to believe in something. For instance I've never seen a ghost so I don't really believe in them . I don't claim that they don't exist either because I have heard a lot of stories that are pretty credible.
Anyway, I started looking into stuff like 9/11, Federal Reserve, New World Order, Flouride in the water and although everything at first glance seemed so separate, when you put them all together they seem to make one big ugly picture.
This is one hypothesis put very simply. A bunch of really rich guys got together and want to take over the world. I believe it all began back when the Federal Reserve was started. Then durring the Reagan administration they took things a step further. Now with Jr in office their plan is about to be fully unleashed. First they stage the 9/11 attack, take away our constitutional rights so that we can be imprissoned for no good reason and just throw away the key. I think the reason they put floride in the water and fill us with chemicals is to lower our IQ and make us weaker. They have the media on their side to help hide the truth. Then build consentration camps for us all to live cozy in, why so that they can keep trouble makers like us out of the way and also we would be cheap labor. There has been a rise of privately owned prisons in the US. There are complaints that these prisoners are being explioted by working for pennies on the dollar for big corporations. I used to think that The new World Order wanted to kill us all. But I wondered why when we are the ones that help them to make their money. After I saw the consentration camp film and all of your responses I now believe that they want to simply remove all of our human rights and be able to tell us what to do. Hence the consentration camps. Then there we can work for them like the poor people in third world countries. Makes sense to me now.
I hope my imagination is just going wild but what else am I to think. They intentionally make us sick, prevent us from getting better. They lie left and right about terrorists so that we will give up our rights so that we can supposedly be safe. We are told that our government needs to spy on us and so that they can prevent another terrorist attack. Then tell me why we were attacked in the first place when we now know that our government was "spying" on us at least 7 months before the 9/11 incident. And I keep wondering why they were so slopy in all this. Why they aren't more careful because the truth will come out. So many people are unravelling the truth. Now I realize why, that's what the consentration camps are for. For us thousands of people who know the truth and for those of us who refuse to submit to their rules. But for those of you who keep saying that you won't go on those FEMA trains, think again. They won't give us a choice. If it actually comes down to what we are talking about then they won't give us a choice. Perhaps they will have mandated evacuations and for those who refuse to go we will then be arrested, or even shot. Who knows, but I'm scared now. I've only been researching this stuff for a week or two now. I can't even imagine what you others that are experts on these matters know.
I would love to learn more about these topics. Help me fill in the million more peices to the puzzle that I need to find. I wonder if any of you think I am on the right track with my hypothesis. I would love any and all feedback, especially any that can prove me wrong because right now I don't want to be right.
You basicly hit it right on the nail Nubs. But we do have the option to fight, even if it means dying or being imprisoned anyways. One way or another, we may end up in the camps. So why not fight like hell to try and prevent it?
QUOTE (Freeman @ 29-March-2008 16:29)

Congradulations. You have began to connect the dots. I will agree that the Federal Reserve is a very large factor in the New World Order agenda, but it doesn't begin or end there. The rabbit hole is deep, and goes down a long way. It is confusing, and hard to understand, all for good reason. Everything is compartmentalized to the point of almost non existence, and lie after lie covers it from public veiw.
Within government, there are two chains of command. State and federal. The original states, as defined in the last Appendix, supposedly still exist. They are hanging by a thin thread, but they can still exist. The other chain of command is the federal territories.
Church and State can become separate. Nations can be conquered. Corporations can be sold, even if the lower level employees are not told of the sale. The line of succession can be broken, just once, and an unaware nation is forever enslaved. Just because the name on the letterhead remains the same, doesn't mean the chain of command is still intact. Your nation has been surrendered - three times.
After a conquered nation is surrendered, the victor can do anything he wants to suppress the nationalistic sentiment of the conquered. He can kill all the men, take all your property, abolish your legislature and rename your nation. And all the brutal things allowed by the rules of surrender in Deuteronomy 20. As a minimum, the victor will control foreign affairs, circulate their own currency, and control your existing legislature without you suspecting anything. The victor will probably enslave you by a tax on your labor and your property. If you are no longer in control of "your" government, perhaps you should find out why.
Here is some early history:
Columbus claimed America for the Pope.
The Christian Pilgrims arrived at Plymouth Rock in 1620, having centuries earlier renounced Catholic authority by the Declaration of Arbraoath. By the late 1600's the Puritans arranged for Colonial Charters allowing Corporations, such as the Massachusetts Bay Company, to tax the inhabitants. This is how the Puritans surrendered the Pilgrims back to England, and they became British Colonies. England was exercising the authority of the Holy Roman Empire. The HOLY ALLIANCE of 1213 A.D. was a Treaty between Pope Innocent III and King John of England conveying all rights, titles, and interests in the Crown of England's lands to the Pope. [I believe this is unrelated to the second Beast exercising the authority of the first Beast.] The Kings of England were indebted to Rome for their wealth, power and authority.
King George violated the Fairfax Resolves in 1774. War starts on April 19, 1775 (Paul Revere's ride to Lexington and Concord), when British Colonists living in a British Colony, who considered themselves to be Englishmen, who were subject to British law, who owe allegiance to King George, who never thought of overthrowing the most powerful nation on earth - risked death to shoot at their government's law enforcement officers. If these Christian farmers did not have a right to kill their government's law enforcement officers, then your U.S. Government has no right to exist. The entire legitimacy of your U.S. Government hangs on their right to reject their ungodly government. Romans 13:1 (KJV) "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God."
In October 1781, after three weeks of negotiations, Cornwallis (who was a Freemason) "surrendered" to George Washington (who was also a Freemason), on the condition that the Bank of England would control the central bank of your new government. Cornwallis' troops were then allowed to leave with their arms and ammunition - very unusual for a "surrender." The theretofore worthless Continentals were then redeemed at 100 cents to the dollar with British silver.
Congress, under the Articles of Confederation, authorized Ben Franklin to borrow 8 million Livra from the British Crown. He signed the Note on July 16, 1782. The loan was due on January 1, 1788. When it became obvious that the Note could not be paid, a Constitutional Convention was held to reorganize the bankruptcy. Did your government schools tell you this? Now read the first sentence of Article 6.
The Treaty of Paris, 1783, allows the United States to exist, yet King George claimed that he was retaining title over the Holy Roman Empire and the United States of America as "Arch-Treasurer" and "Prince Elector." The very authority that allows the United States to exist, perpetuates the notion that Kings rule by divine right, and also retains the authority over your treasury for the Holy Roman Empire. If you claim that the U.S. has won its Independence, then you are acknowledging the legitimacy of rest of the Treaty. Perhaps you can now understand why your U.S. Constitution was pushed on you, and why feudal tenure still applies, and why your U.S. Government is in no way founded upon the Christian religion. And indeed, to this very day, the "Department of the Treasury" is not part of your U.S. Government.
Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are U.S. government institutions. They are not government institutions.
Do not ever confuse the United States federal Corporation with their state masters who also have the same name (the masters who wanted to secure the blessings of liberty to their posterity). You must be careful if you ever want to contract with them. "Contracts" are above your U.S. Constitution. If you were to contract with them, you might find that private property could be taken without just compensation, or perhaps you could be drafted to fight UNjust wars, or perhaps they could tender something other than gold or silver coin, or perhaps you could be subjected to their regulatory Agencies (and by the way, "liberty" is the absence of regulation). Perhaps you could even be jailed for a crime. Prior to 1938, most crimes had to have victims. After 1938 anything could be a crime.
Feel better?
I would have to agree that this spiderweb has many different parts to it.
There are numerous covert "concentration camps" located across America, and Canada for the hour of martial law and the seizure of this nation for the New World Order.
Some of these facilities are also incorporated into the military's DUMB's (deep underground military facilities).
These numerous camps have been established to house and supossably to ultimately terminate what they consistently referred to as "the resisters of the New World Order".
But what IS a resister of the New World Order? The definition they (our friendly US government) have applied will surprise you! A "resister" includes:
- A Christian (firm Bible believer)
- A Constitutionalist
- A Patriot
- A gun owner who refuse to relinquish 2nd
Amendment rights
- Anyone who adheres to the concepts of maintaining our national sovereignty, the
Constitution and rejects the concept of United Nations world government control in it's place is labled by the government as a "resister of the New World Order."
- Those radio broadcasters, lecturers, authors, and pastors who publicly come against the New World Order.
Have you ever listened to radio broadcasts exposing the NWO by people such as Alex Jones (
www.infowars.com) or Texe Marrs, or Chris Gurner (on Patriot stations such as Genesis Broadcasting Network)? They are all telling America the truth about the New World Order and it's dark agenda for America via the UN/martial law. And each one knows that they are irrevocably marked for persecution under the NWO/martial law agenda our nation is now entering into. People like them are the more open and obvious examples of "resisters of the NWO."
Even now, sitting silently in classified government computers are the names of millions of fellow American Patriots ALREADY PROFILED as "resisters of the NWO." According to many sources, such people have been marked for priority arrest, to be transported to these modern concentration camps (under FEMA or military jurisdiction,) to be interrogated, and ultimately, according to many different sources, to be terminated.
Interrogation? "Are you a member of the militia? Who is your leader? Where are your secret cells located? How many secret weapons caches do you have?" Or, "Who is your Pastor? Where are your food supplies hidden? How many belong to your prayer group?" Etc.
The CIA and the military have been secretly perfecting both mind control drugs and torture techniques designed to force compliance or to be used in interrogation sessions.
Some sources have even stated that under Martial Law those arrested can anticipate "...brutal rape, torture and death once they are arrested and taken to the camps!"
The camps stand to this day and will be activated under martial law. And are being built as we speak. Particularly hated by the NWO agenda are Christians who, for Bible-based reasons, will refuse to participate in their Luciferic based NWO. Former and current Satanists, who are the backbone of the NWO, have admitted this.
This is one of the main reasons why Christians will be considered a major target for arrest and removal as NWO takeover progresses in America. How many times can it be emphasized that it is time to wake up the churches in America?
Many have stated that those "resisters of the NWO" who are not immediately terminated at the supposable many gassing/cremating or microwaving facilities across America and Canada may instead be diverted to facilities such as those located in deep underground military bases for human experimentation UNTIL THEY EXPIRE.
Remember Joseph Mengele and the Nazi doctors? Sadly, history DOES repeat itself.
It has also been said that the "resisters" could be turned over to Satanist covens for Human sacrifice.
A former high level Illuminati/Satanist named Doc Marquis once stated that when he was personally flown out to the FEMA gassing/crematory detention camp in the Mojave (it has a landing strip) he rejoiced as he was shown around this deadly compound.
Mr. Marquis stated:"My sentiments? I rejoiced over the thought that Christians would be terminated in this place."This is the end-time hour in which we live, friends. And in order to have mass beheading terminations of so many Christian resisters of the NWO, you must have the tools with which to do it.
For Christians who would raise eyebrows at this, I will simply refer them to the Bible as evidence:
Rev. 20:4And I saw the souls of them who were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the word of God..." While it is true that many, including the Apostle Paul, have been beheaded for the witness of Jesus, if you read it you will see that it is SPECIFICALLY referring to this present time frame of the Kingdom of Satan on Earth (the Kingdom of the Beast or AntiChrist) and the period when the cashless society will be manifested with the mark (Digital Angel/Veri-Chip/RFID Chip?) in one's hand or forehead and it's blasphemous World religious system.
If you would like to purchase a book written by Doc Marquis then visit the following website:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/002-3...rds=Doc+Marquis